What browser do you use?

Engnr

Moderator
Jez is having no luck with Firefox lately and was thinking of trying something other then I.E. Any suggestions?
 

Kenadian

Staff member
Site Admin
Chrome is simply the best browser option currently. It seems to use the least amount of RAM when compared with IE and Firefox (haven't tested Opera), it's simple, it's clean and it renders everything well.

It also has the best password management of any browser I've ever used the only exception being the earlier versions of Firefox. I have a dozen or so passwords under the name Duke and so far, only Chrome can keep them straight.

I also use Firefox, IE and Opera but only to test any code changes I make to this or any other website.
 
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Engnr

Moderator
Chrome sounds like the way to go thus far. I'm running it now while she's at work today.
 

Kenadian

Staff member
Site Admin
As a web designer I am happy with everyone that stops using I.E. - especially US-Americans. ;)
I couldn't agree more. IE always makes you jump through hoops to make your work render properly.

If they weren't bundled with Windows in North America I'm sure they would have fallen by the wayside years ago.
 

mondo

Hardcore
Separate out IE8 and IE9, they're completely different. IE9 actually conforms to quite a few standards better than Firefox or Chrome. Its just a shame that something like 20% of the world still uses IE8.

I personally use Chrome.
 

Kenadian

Staff member
Site Admin
I'm not sure where you're getting that information from mondo because as far as I know it's completely untrue:

http://www.w3schools.com/cssref/css3_browsersupport.asp

If you take a look at the table linked above, you can clearly see that IE is always far behind in supporting new w3c compliant standards.

For years we had to load that stupid alpha image loader just to get IE to render a .png properly and things just haven't improved much.

I also wish Firefox would stop using moz and start using webkit so we don't need multiple .css templates to render drop-shadows and rounded corners.

...in fact they should all just use webkit if they can't support it natively and be done with it. It would make our lives so much easier.
 

mondo

Hardcore
I'm not sure where you're getting that information from mondo because as far as I know it's completely untrue:

http://www.w3schools.com/cssref/css3_browsersupport.asp

If you take a look at the table linked above, you can clearly see that IE is always far behind in supporting new w3c compliant standards.
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'CSS3 is not yet a W3C standard'

IE9 has some issues where it doesn't use some aspects of code like HTML 5, but on compliance its not too bad, it really depends on what specifically you look at. However 8 and 9 are like night and day.

Information is from having to research it, I'm QA Manager at a multinational corporation, serving 20m+ customers over three products. IE9 is actually the browser we have least issues with, IE8 the most.
 
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Kenadian

Staff member
Site Admin
Ya I realize that w3c is not yet a standard but that chart clearly demonstrates IE's willingness to move forward on anything and it's always been this way.

I'm glad it works for you but I've yet to see any Webmaster happily embrace it.

I don't have a 20m+ Customer Base to work from but I do have experience from being an ex-Mod at v7n.com and over 8 years trying to have code render the same over the big 3 browsers.
 
I hate Chrome and IE9. I love firefox settings

I am however using IE8. I work from home and IE8 is the only browser they have compatible with the multiple windows I have to work with.

I actually cant complain, its pretty basic and Ive never had an issue with it!
 

mondo

Hardcore
Ya I realize that w3c is not yet a standard but that chart clearly demonstrates IE's willingness to move forward on anything and it's always been this way.

I'm glad it works for you but I've yet to see any Webmaster happily embrace it.

I don't have a 20m+ Customer Base to work from but I do have experience from being an ex-Mod at v7n.com and over 8 years trying to have code render the same over the big 3 browsers.
I think its what you're looking to do with it. If you look at our products they use Javascript, Ajax and CSS and a few other things here and there.

When we check things like usage statistics, page views, regressed bugs, new bugs IE9 is actually the one that has the best statistics as a %. IE8 the worst, because it requires allot of specific programming for just the browser. That is really the core difference between then. Additionally IE9 might not have all standards adopted but the standards it does officially support, it supports well; in some cases much more closely to the letter than some of the webkit based browsers.

Im not an IE9 fan boy, I use Chrome for a number of specific reasons (Google accounts, multiple PC's, memory management/sessions never have to be closed etc), but I can see where IE9 stands up and from a practical purpose when producing ecommerce sites, we don't have to treat IE9 any differently than Chrome, Firefox or urg..Safari. IE8 we still have to treat as a specific edge case because 18% of our customers still use it.
 

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